Video: GOP Voter Calls Hillary a "Bitch" & McCain Laughs

This diary will be short and sweet. (And it was cross posted at Daily Kos)

Pissed off Hillary supporters who are threatening to vote for John McCain ought to be reminded of this as OFTEN as possible. (Video after the jump):

How soon people forget.

Then, of course, is his infamous joke about how "ugly" Chelsea Clinton is.

All these accomplished, intelligent, educated, strong women who are threatening to vote for McCain ought to be ashamed of themselves.



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But if you had posted that 2 months ago (1.33 / 6)

on "progressive" sites, how many rec.s would you have gotten?  how much agreement with the insults?  how many "amens"?
I EXPECT Republicans to be sexists.  Democrats?  That disappoints me.
It's hard for me to get offended by Republicans saying things I saw rec'd on kos all spring!
John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 12:44:22 PM EST

You have some serious problems, then. (2.00 / 6)

How many Obama supporters made crude jokes about Chelsea Clinton?
Not to mention the fact taht, how often (if ever) did Obama HIMSELF give any credence to any of the stronger attacks on Hillary made by some of his supporters?

NEVER!

Therein lies the difference. And it's all the difference in the world.

Obama is a class act. McCain is a scumbag who called his own wife a "cunt" to her face.

Wavering Hillary voters need to get a fucking grip on reality.


by Hesiod Theogeny on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 12:54:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]

To this day, pro Obama bloggers leave (1.00 / 3)

their conference calls with the Obama campaign and then post nasty Hillary attacks (see americablog and Aravosis).  And, no one in the campaign says "hey, get a grip, we're trying for unity".  Because, they're not.  Because they don't want her on the ticket, so Axelrod's still sliming her.  DAILY.
And btw - disagreeing with YOU is not a sign of "some serious problems".  It's a sign of disagreeing with you.  
John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:06:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: To this day, pro Obama bloggers leave (2.00 / 1)

Americablog did post a few nasty Hillary attacks..
http://www.americablog.com/2008/03/hilla ry-today-john-mccain-has-more.html

Oh, did you mean something else?


by mydoubled on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:10:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

The nastisest atatcks from Obama on Hillary... (2.00 / 1)

...that were sanctioned by his campaign in any way were that she would "say anything to win," etc.

There were a few outliers such as the charge that Hillary was a "monster" by Samantha Power, which she promtly apoloigized for profusely and was fired from the Obama campaign almost immediately over (compare that to how Geraldine Ferraro has responded to her attacks on Obama) -- and the charges of race baiting by BILL Clinton levelled by folks in a subtle way. [Which were factually correct, by the way!]

Obama and his campaign have never, ever, ever, reported to sexism against Hillary to gain votes. Not even remotely.

He did not go around claiming that "men won't vote for Hillary."

In any case, many Hillary supporters made out and out racist attacks on Obama here and elsewhere. I don't hgold Hillary directly responsible for those attacks. Especially given how they COPNTINUED even after Hillary herself has magnanimously conceded and endorsed Barack. [i.e. Michelle's alleged "whitey" video.]

The fact of the matter is: McCain is a scumbag. And he's a misogynist scmbag to boot. A sexist pig in every sense of the word, from his unceremonius dumbping of his disabled firs wife, to his derogatory treatment of his current wife, to his rampant womanizing, to his crass and offensive jokes about a teenage girl.

Proud Hillary supporting women voting for him is an offense againt feminism and basic human dececy


by Hesiod Theogeny on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 02:20:57 PM EST
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Re: To this day, pro Obama bloggers leave (2.00 / 2)

Yes, and some Hillary supporters think there should be a massive insurgency within the party to beat sexist ol Obama (see hillaryis44.)  There are real assholes on both sides of the isle, lets all acknowledge that.  The key difference here though is that it was MCCAIN who laughed at the comment, not just a McCain supporter.  


Vote Change in '08!
by iowa dem on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 02:24:49 PM EST
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Re: To this day, pro Obama bloggers leave (2.00 / 1)

Yeah, OK. Barack Obama isn't not trying for unity.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/thankyo uHRC?source=feature_thankyou

At which point you'll promptly ignore all evidence to the contrary so you can keep repeating the same nonsense.  


Gobama!
by USArmyParatrooper on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 05:21:21 PM EST
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Re: But if you had posted that 2 months ago (2.00 / 2)

that's no more right than this is but do you have nothing to contradict the diary itself? Was the candidate Obama reccing those diaries? Which current candidate has the one of the worst ratings for both womens issues and kids issues? guess what, as larry johnson shows, as hagee shows, as some kos people show, all candidates have crazies supporting them, none more then the others.


by Dog Chains on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 12:56:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Obama did NOTHING to stop the sexist attacks (1.00 / 3)

and he even joined in ("she's likeable enough . . . ")
To this day, Axelrod still bad mouths her daily, and they're still sliming her.  Unity?  Then cut the crap.
John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:09:18 PM EST
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Re: Obama did NOTHING to stop the sexist attacks (2.00 / 6)

"Likeable enough" isn't sexist.

And did some Obama supporters say stupid shit?  Yes.  But I wouldn't go making a federal case of it, because there are off the rails supporters on BOTH sides of the (recently ended, in case you didn't notice) battle.  

Need proof?  May I suggest a trip over to hillaryis44.com or noquarter.com?


John McCain wants to stay in Iraq.
by ihaveseenenough on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:11:39 PM EST
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Re: Obama did NOTHING to stop the sexist attacks (2.00 / 3)

I don't understand Kosnomore's obsession with everything possibly negative from the past.

At what point does it get so old that you will stop bringing up stuff that was maybe relevant in March?


http://www.truepat.org/
by CrushTheGOP2008 on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:13:43 PM EST
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Re: Obama did NOTHING to stop the sexist attacks (2.00 / 1)

The lesson should be that if you see a certain user name below a comment, don't even bother responding.
I really don't know why people tie themselves in knots rebutting these people.
by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 03:40:31 PM EST
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Likeable enough isnt sexist ? (1.00 / 2)

How soon they forget.  It was a classic dismissive sexist statement from a man to a woman.
It lost him the women's vote in NH, remember?
John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:18:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Likeable enough isnt sexist ? (2.00 / 3)

Do if Obama has said it to a man, would it be sexist?

If Clinton had said it to Obama, would it have been sexist?


by mydoubled on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:20:22 PM EST
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No. It's not sexist. (2.00 / 1)

It's a flip comment on Hillary's likeability. It was gender neutral.

The comment itself was not sexist. If I recall, the reason women were upset with Obama was not becaus ethe comment was sexist, but that he piled on and did not act in a gentlemanly manner to defend Hillary from that charge in a string enough way. INstead he gave her a backhanded compliment.

Which, of course, is holding Obama to a double standard when it comes to how he criticizes or attack Hillary Clinton.

Nobody would ahve cared had he said that about Joe Biden in exactly the same way.

But Hillary supporters thought she was being trteated unfairly and wanted Obama to act with Chivalry towartd her, and thus reinfiorce the very sterotypes they supposedly want to get rid of -- rather than as a legitimate rival for the nomination.


by Hesiod Theogeny on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 02:25:00 PM EST
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Re: No. It's not sexist. (2.00 / 1)

I don't think they wanted Obama to act with chivalry.  If I remember correctly he caught flack for pulling out her chair to seat her at the beginning of one of the debates.  He was in quite a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.


by matchles on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 04:58:27 PM EST
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Re: No. It's not sexist. (none / 0)


Chivalry is sexist.

McCain is not chivalrous.

Ergo McCain is not sexist.

-----------------------

Why is chivalry sexist, may I ask? Because Obama is chivalrous.


by french imp on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 05:59:11 PM EST
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Re: Likeable enough isnt sexist ? (2.00 / 1)

It was a response to a question about why nobody likes Hillary Clinton.

Honestly, the same question could have been posed to the GOP candidates about Mitt Romney, and the responses would have been similar.

"You're likable enough" was snooty, but it wasn't sexist.


by elrod on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 04:59:04 PM EST
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Re: Likeable enough isnt sexist ? (2.00 / 1)

Hey, whatever works for you.  Obama's a sexist pig and the world is united against any woman ever coming to power, and the Democrats are RIGHT on the frontline of the war for male superiority.


John McCain wants to stay in Iraq.
by ihaveseenenough on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 05:01:52 PM EST
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Re: Obama did NOTHING to stop the sexist attacks (2.00 / 2)

"To this day, Axelrod still bad mouths her daily..."

He does?
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ne d=&q=axelrod+clinton&ie=UTF-8&am p;scoring=n&sa=N&start=20

Hrm, not seeing much here.


by mydoubled on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:16:17 PM EST
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Re: Obama did NOTHING to stop the sexist attacks (2.00 / 4)

Don't take her to seriously, there seems to be an insane repetitive post mortum whining over stuff that has nothing to do with the GE as it "may" have happened in the now over primary election.


http://www.truepat.org/
by CrushTheGOP2008 on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:17:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]

"Don't take her too seriously" (1.00 / 3)

Yeah, she's just a girl!


John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:20:16 PM EST
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Re: "Don't take her too seriously" (2.00 / 5)

You must live a very strange life when every comment that does not flatter you in its entirety is a dismissal of your gender.  But I guess noew I can see where your opinions spring from.

I don't take you too seriously but it's because you're [whatever race you are].  Haha, didn't see that one coming, did you?


by mydoubled on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:27:03 PM EST
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Re: "Don't take her too seriously" (2.00 / 5)

And there you see the pattern.

Spend enough time here and that kind of crap gets transparent.

Kosnomore has not made a single non selfserving positive statement since maybe the second night I saw her post on this board.

She even said she wanted to change her name, as basing your identity on hating another site was pretty lame, which she agreed to.

Well thats whats nice about this site, as soon as she sees this repetive sex baiting goes nowhere and cheapens our historic primary race she will make a new name.

Funny too, how Kos is so evil when their traffic keeps going up and this site and others completely tanked.


http://www.truepat.org/
by CrushTheGOP2008 on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:32:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]

She didn't change her name (2.00 / 2)

to a certain allergy medication, perchance? The hit-and-run style is disturbingly familiar.


It is not because I cannot explain that you won't understand. It is because you won't understand that I cannot explain. - Elie Wiesel
by Sumo Vita on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 04:34:59 PM EST
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Re: Obama did NOTHING to stop the sexist attacks (2.00 / 2)

If that's joining in, then you would have to turn around your prior comments regarding HRC never taking part (he's not a muslim that I know of)...not really much difference between your point and mine then, is there?


by Dog Chains on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:20:38 PM EST
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Re: Obama did NOTHING to stop the sexist attacks (2.00 / 1)

A search for "Axelrod Hillary" on Google news finds exactly one reference in the past week, a 6/9/08 Fox News article about how the Obama campaign is planning to utilize both Clintons in the general election.  The article is complimentary, unless you consider Axelrod's assertion that the process was "unbelievably grueling" and that Hillary "deserves some time to chill out" to be badmouthing or sliming or both.  "Axelrod and Hillary" returns the same results.  "Axelrod and Hillary"'s most recent result is May 25, 2008.  

Do you have any actual evidence that your claim---that David Axelrod personally badmouths Hillary Clinton on a daily basis---is occurring?  Because I have not seen anything like that, and a review of the public record (I don't have a lexis subscription) does not provide any support for your assertion.  


John McCain: Healthcare for Kids? In America? No way
by bosdcla14 on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:58:42 PM EST
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I do have a LexisNexis Subscription (2.00 / 1)

And I looked for anything that had both "Axelrod" and "Hillary" in the past month.  Axelrod is not talking about Hillary at all, as far as I can tell.  The only thing I found was attributed to a senior strategist to Obama, and while it's not super-duper nice, it isn't exactly an attack.

"There is a strong sense coming from a lot of Hillary supporters - I won't extend the accusation to her - that it was her turn, she'd earned this and Obama is a usurper," said the unnamed strategist. June 8, 2008.


by ProgressiveDL on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 02:18:32 PM EST
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Re: I do have a LexisNexis Subscription (2.00 / 1)

A quote that, I would note, is more than a week old, and specifically excludes Hillary.

So yeah, again Kosnomore, what evidence makes you believe that David Axelrod is "sliming" Hillary Clinton on a "daily basis?"  


John McCain: Healthcare for Kids? In America? No way
by bosdcla14 on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 02:24:35 PM EST
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Re: I do have a LexisNexis Subscription (2.00 / 1)

*crickets*
Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 04:03:48 PM EST
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You are wacko. (2.00 / 6)

You are actually comparing the "you;re likeable anough, Hillary" comment to John McCain giggling when a supporter called Hillary a "bitch?"

Or to McCain telling Chelsea Clinton "ugly" jokes?

The is the most idiotic moral equivalency nonsense I have ever seen.


by Hesiod Theogeny on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 02:11:12 PM EST
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Re: You are wacko. (none / 0)

'Hillary is likable' is sexist.

Ergo 'Chelsea is ugly' is not sexist.


by french imp on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 06:02:34 PM EST
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Re: Obama did NOTHING to stop the sexist attacks (2.00 / 1)

Which attacks on HRC were sexist? By whom were these attacks made? What was Obama's obligation to defend someone who was--at the time--his opponent?


Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.
by Carl Nyberg on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 03:40:39 PM EST
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Re: Obama did NOTHING to stop the sexist attacks (2.00 / 1)

<blockquotes>
To this day, Axelrod still bad mouths her daily, and they're still sliming her
</blockquotes>

And this happens, daily, in your dreams? Or do you have anything to substantiate your fantasy smears?


It is not because I cannot explain that you won't understand. It is because you won't understand that I cannot explain. - Elie Wiesel
by Sumo Vita on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 04:00:42 PM EST
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Re: Obama did NOTHING to stop the sexist attacks (none / 0)

Just a tip- blockquote, not blockquotes ;)


John McCain wants to stay in Iraq.
by ihaveseenenough on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 05:02:20 PM EST
[ Parent ]

"Excellent question" - John McCain (2.00 / 2)

I forgot he called it an excellent question


McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions
by TarHeel on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:52:30 PM EST

Re: Video: GOP Voter (2.00 / 2)

that lady was a d-bag for asking it that way. she gives them consent to call women 'bitches'; what a dumbass;


she degrades herself while degrading others.


laughter ensues
"Rankles and Rush Limbaugh, ruining the chaos brand since 2008."
by alyssa chaos on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 02:33:17 PM EST

Re: Starting... (none / 0)

 ...to consider McCain.


by xdem on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 03:02:04 PM EST

McCain the feminist (2.00 / 2)


McCain housing policy shaped by lobbyist.
by obsessed on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 04:02:07 PM EST

This is old news and it won't change the minds of (none / 0)

Hillary supporters who are furious about the way Obama, the Democratic "leadership" and the media have treated her.

McCain did not accuse the former president and first lady of race-bating. McCain did not make it exceedingly difficult, if not impossible, to sucessfully run for the nomination in the future.

This diary is a sad attempt to bring up McCain's negatives with Hillary supporters. Hillary supporters already agree with Obama on most issues. All he needs to do is the right thing and put Hillary on the ticket for party unity. She's more qualified than anyone else he could choose in foreign and domestic policy and she delivers red states (Arkansas) and helps with the swing states. It should be a no-brainer.


by mmorang on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 04:02:21 PM EST

Re: This is old news and it won't change the minds (none / 0)


McCain did not make it exceedingly difficult, if not impossible, to sucessfully run for the nomination in the future.

True, Obama will likely have a successful 2-term presidency, the usurper! Could he be any more thoughtless or inconsiderate?


It is not because I cannot explain that you won't understand. It is because you won't understand that I cannot explain. - Elie Wiesel
by Sumo Vita on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 04:15:40 PM EST
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Re: This is old news and it won't change the minds (1.00 / 2)

No, you misunderstood my comment or pretended to misunderstand.

No one minds Obama winning a fair fight. No one minds a hard foul. But a career-ending flagorant foul is a different story.

Obama tarred both Clinton's with false charges of race-bating. That crosses a line. That is why there isn't party unity.

The Republicans are as popular as colon cancer and they are running a corpse. Yet, Obama is only tied with McCain. If he doesn't put Hillary on the ticket he will lose and deserve to lose.


by mmorang on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 04:37:05 PM EST
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Re: This is old news and it won't change the minds (2.00 / 2)

No, the Clintons "tarred" themselves by sending surrogates to "go there".  They shouldn't have done it.


John McCain wants to stay in Iraq.
by ihaveseenenough on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 05:03:47 PM EST
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Re: This is old news and it won't change the minds (2.00 / 2)

Lots of people outside the Obama campaign thought the Clintons went over the racial line. "Hard working Americans, white Americans." How was THAT not race-baiting? Obama didn't say it. Obama didn't turn an obscure innocent reference to a racial one. He didn't need to. It was patently obvious that Hillary Clinton had equated "white" with "hard-working," which is a classic race-baiting tactic. It was her own doing, not Obama's. Yes, JJJ was snide with her re: Katrina. But JJJ's Katrina "tears" comment mostly made Jackson look like an idiot, not Clinton.


by elrod on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 05:03:51 PM EST
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Re: This is old news and it won't change the minds (none / 0)

Ya, people who don't know the facts.


by mmorang on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 10:38:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is old news and it won't change the minds (2.00 / 1)

YOu sure as hell don't know the facts.


by Hesiod Theogeny on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 11:55:46 PM EST
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Re: This is old news and it won't change the minds (2.00 / 2)

You've present a reasonable argument, so I'll offer a serious response. There's a chasm separating your perspective from mine, and this is it:


Obama tarred both Clinton's with false charges of race-bating.

From the view of just this supporter, there sure as hell was race baiting. It was not a false charge.  

Prior to Ferraro's verbal diarrhea, Obama was just a freshman senator with popular appeal running for president. Ferraro was the opening salvo in a series of shameless attempts to change that perception to him being "the black guy". Her spittle-flecked diatribes claiming that he was only winning "because he was black" was a disgusting, slanderous insult to his many supporters for whom race was farthest from their minds. Ed Rendell openly pondered whether his electorate would vote for a black man. And Bill certainly didn't help when he explained Obama's SC strength by allusions to Jesse Jackson's failed campaign.

Now, not for a second do I consider either Clinton to be racists. But I'm just as certain that Penn et al. had no qualms about using race to the campaign's advantage in Appalachia - a strategy that was clearly successful. The dog-whistle politics practiced in Appalachia weren't examples of overt racism - but the emphasis on race appealed to those they were designed to appeal to. It was a new low in a battle that had already hit epic lows.

In the end, one campaign practiced race-baiting, the other called them on it. Whether this move was "career-ending" depends on how well they now work together to smoothen ruffled feathers on both sides.


It is not because I cannot explain that you won't understand. It is because you won't understand that I cannot explain. - Elie Wiesel
by Sumo Vita on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 05:18:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Obama never "tarred" anyone... (2.00 / 1)

...with that charge. Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton or anyone else.


by Hesiod Theogeny on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 05:51:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is old news and it won't change the minds (1.00 / 1)

Obama accused the Clinton's of race-bating. They made it up. I know exactly what Hillary and Bill said, the context and the timeline and neither of them said anything remotely racists. Obama and company are the ones who sent out all the emails to the media with THEIR spin. Apparently it worked...in the short run.

Bill Clinton NEVER said anything remotely race-bating and that is one hell of a bald face lie from the Obama campaign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


by mmorang on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 10:41:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]

They race baited. It's not even debateable. (2.00 / 1)

Even Rep. Andrews said they were doing it behind the scenes.

Are they racists? No. Were they willing to use other people's racism to leverage votes for Hillary? You betcha.


by Hesiod Theogeny on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 11:55:06 PM EST
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Re: This is old news and it won't change the minds (none / 0)

Hillary made a factual statement about the passing of civil rights. She said it took someone from the outside and inside, MLK and Pres. Johnson, respectively. She is clearly a huge admirer of MLK. But Obama and co. twisted her comments and tried to say she was dissing MLK. Absurd!

Jesse Jackson Jr.: "Hillary didn't cry for Katrina". Pure race-bating!

Bill Clinton after the SC loss:

Reporter: "is Obama so good that it takes the two of you to beat him?"

Bill on his way to his car: "Jesse Jackson won here in 1984 & 1988, he ran a good race, Obama has run a good race here, he's run a good race EVERYWHERE, but there are still many contests to go"

Clinton was advocating for his wife and trying to downplay or marginalize his wife's opponents victory. That is exactly what he's supposed to do. He's not supposed to be Obama's cheerleader. Jesse Jackson was seen as a one-hit-wonder.

Jesse Jackson said that there wasn't a thing wrong with the comment. But Obama and co. sent out emails to everyone and said that it was race-bating. EVERYONE knows that Obama is black. Bill Clinton wasn't sending out secret code informing people of the obvious. It was a baseless charge.

The list goes on and on. I'm not talking about the stupid things that surrogates of both sides have said. I'm talking about the candidate himself going after the Clinton's.

Hillary mildly attacked Obama on experience, which is legitimate. Obama attacked Hillary's personal character. So, now it's personal. If he doesn't put her on the ticket (like she would have done for him) then I will be leaving the party. Hillary and Bill Clinton's treatment has been an embarrasment. The Democratic party is going to be in for a surprise if they don't make this situation right.


by mmorang on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 10:56:20 PM EST
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Re: This is old news and it won't change the minds (2.00 / 1)

So: Obama must take Hillary on the ticket in order to get her supporter's votes.

Whereas John McCain can have her supporter's votes for free?

What's so great about McCain?

By the way, isn't the phrase 'be on my ticket' sexist? Sounds like 'she's got a ticket to ride'...


by french imp on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 06:12:57 PM EST
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A dirty window I can see you through (none / 0)

Enough with the silly diaries. We know: McCain is evil, Obama is saintly.

Get Hillary on the ticket so we can win the election and move on. If not, don't complain when the corpes wins in November.


by mmorang on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 04:04:27 PM EST

When all else fails (2.00 / 3)

the sardonic put-downs and threats make an appearance. FWIW, I hear the "don't blame me" bumper stickers are on sale somewhere.


It is not because I cannot explain that you won't understand. It is because you won't understand that I cannot explain. - Elie Wiesel
by Sumo Vita on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 04:32:59 PM EST
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Re: A dirty window I can see you through (2.00 / 1)

Where did I say Obama was "saintly?" Hes a tough Chicago politician. That Hillary supporters are crying about Hillary getting a few kidney punches from him is hilarious


by Hesiod Theogeny on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 05:52:51 PM EST
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Re: A dirty window I can see you through (1.00 / 1)

No, not tough. False charges of racism is over the line as are his personal attacks. He couldn't win on issues so he went after her character.

I can't wait until November.


by mmorang on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 10:43:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Nobody accused Hillary of being racist. (2.00 / 1)

Or Bill for that matter. They accused them of race baiting. i.e. using OTHER PEOPLE'S racism to seek political advantage.

There is absolutely no doubt they did that.

Deny it if you wish. But it will just demonstrate to us how tone deaf and full of Hillary Kool Aid you are.


by Hesiod Theogeny on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 11:53:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: A dirty window I can see you through (2.00 / 1)

There we go with the threats again... put Hillary on the ticket (even though that would probably be a very bad choice), or "we" vote for McCain...

It's time to stop holding the party hostage...


It profits a PUMA nothing to give their soul for the whole world... but for McCain? --Sir Thomas More (if he were here now)
by LordMike on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 07:22:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Democrat Party (2.00 / 1)

I noticed McCain said "Democrat Party" at the end. What an ass. And how about the "ex-wife" comment.


by elrod on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 05:06:22 PM EST

Re: Video: Voter Calls Hillary a "Bitch" (none / 0)

I am not a John McCain supporter, nor am I a HRC supporter. But to laugh at a question is one thing (which is what he did)If a stand up comic asked the question in front of an audience and he laughed, what would be the difference. It was spontaniety. The second clip I can't hear, so I don't even know that he said it. Go relax, this shouldn't sway voters one way or another. I've said much worse about Hillary in my comments, and no one's asking her supporters not to vote for me.


John McCain: Everyones nowhere man
by johnny sexton on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 07:15:35 PM EST


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